The DonJoy Defiance III knee brace is the most popular custom knee brace in the world. In fact, the Defiance III is worn by many professional athletes including members of the US Ski Team and World Champion Big Wave Surfer Garrett McNamara. The Defiance III is the strongest knee brace offered by DonJoy and is recommended for athletes participating in high collision sports, like football, motocross, or skiing. This brace is ideal for athletes who participate in water sports like surfing, wakeboarding, or kite surfing. People recovering from ACL and other knee ligament surgeries also use this brace on regular basis.
Why do I need a custom knee brace?
Wearing a custom knee brace means maximum support is applied where you need it most. When you order a DonJoy Defiance III knee brace, one of the DonJoy bracing experts will come to your house or office to take your measurements. Then DonJoy will custom manufacture a brace that fits your exact measurements. This perfect fit ensures the components of the brace align perfectly with your body ensuring maximum protection and comfort during movement.
By wearing a brace that is custom manufactured for your knee, you can play your sport with confidence because you know that you’re less likely to re-injure your knee. In fact DonJoy guarantees it! If you rupture your reconstructed ACL while wearing this brace DonJoy will pay $1,000 towards your surgery. You must register at www.donjoy.com/kneeguarantee to be eligible for this guarantee.
The Defiance III knee braces are used to treat or prevent the following injuries
Moderate to severe ACL or PCL instabilities
Post ACL or PCL reconstructions
ACL / PCL combined instabilities (CI)
MCL / LCL instabilities
Hyperextension
Product Features…and the benefits you’ll experience!
Custom Fabricated Based on Your Measurements The brace is manufactured to your exact measurements, which means the components of the brace align perfectly with your body ensuring maximum protection and comfort during movement.
Available in 3 Lengths The DonJoy Defiance is available in 3 lengths: standard, short, and a short calf version for ski boot clearance.
LowPro FourcePoint Hinge Technology Makes you less likely to suffer from an ACL injury because it reduces the amount of time your knee is in an “at risk position”, enhances the Four-Points of Leverage by increasing the posterior load applied by the brace on the tibia, and improves your natural gait by applying progressive resistance before reaching a firm end point during movement.
Carbon Fiber Frame This brace is both unbelievably strong and lightweight. You get the protection you need without feeling like you’re being weighed down by your brace.
Anti-migration Supra Condyle Pad Your knee brace will stay in place no matter how active you are.
Swiveling Strap Tabs These tabs enable the brace to move with you.
Product Guarantee This knee brace comes with a lifetime warranty on the frame and hinges, and a 6 month warranty on the soft goods.
Sizing and Measurements
When you order a DonJoy Defiance III knee brace, you get the opportunity to be custom fitted by one of the DonJoy bracing experts. Upon placing your order, we will contact you to schedule an appointment with a representative to take your measurements. Your brace will be delivered approximately one week from the date your measurements are taken.
Instructions for Use…how to put on your DonJoy Defiance III knee brace.
To ensure you are properly applying your brace, click on the Video tab above and watch our Fitting Video.
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DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace reviews
1. WOW! The pain is gone as soon as I put them on. When we decided to go to the braces, my doctor told me that many people don’t wear them because of the bulk and visibility. “They aren’t very effective when they sit on the shelf.” I am not finding it difficult to wear them since the inconvenience PALES in comparison to the pain relief when wearing them.”
2. What took me so long to agree to these? If only I knew then what I know now. I want to shout from the rooftop to all those people struggling with the decision to make the financial investment and to commit to the inconvenience. Count me in as a true believer!
My only suggestions for improvement:
Alter the design such that the brace can be removed without removing shoes and pants. Can both the bottom and top be on the same side?
I travel frequently, the braces set off the metal detectors at the airport. Can they be constructed of another material that won’t do that? - Cindy
cellogirl
At first this hurt the inflamed side of my knee that the extra pressure was on. But now in about a week I have no pain at all when I wear it. The DonJoy Defiance is so light that exercise is very easy and it doesn't through me off balance at all. My only complaint is where to find pants that can be worn over it with it sticking out. I finally bought a couple of skirts because this definitely doesn't work under jeans. - cellogirl
bf
I need my knee replaced, but want to wait till summer because of the length of time off. This brace has made it possible for me to walk, and walk pain free allowing me to have the surgery when I can afford to take the time off. I didn't realize how much I was throwing my hip out until I walked with this brace on. End of story...I can walk again and I have no pain . - bf
Cj
tore my acl and have been wearing ever since. Provides great knee support and I have more confidence that my knee will not give out. Some discomfort from the straps and material touching the skin on the inside of the brace, but no other complaints. - Cj
willie
I wear two of them and they help greatly, won't be caught without them - willie
LaLa
I am a gymnast and I tore my ACL and both meniscus on my left leg. 2 weeks after surgery i got the brace and it has been amazing! the support i got from the brace was incredible! the straps are a bit uncomfortable, but if you get the under-sleeve for it, it makes it alot more enjoyable to wear. Its been 7 months since the surgery, i am back to tumbling with the brace and i never think twice about doing a skill when i have the brace on. I love it!! - LaLa
Bill
I have struggled with knee pain and weakness since I was run over by a potato combine about 40 years ago. It finally got to a point where I needed some help. I thought that I would need to have a knee replacement surgery but I was a little afraid because I have heard some good and some bad things about that type of surgery. I wear the brace every other day now and it is amazing how good my knee feels. I did not have the surgery, at least not yet, I will put it off as long as I can. However, using the brace I can run, walk, exercise and do just about anything I want to try to do. I have not felt that weakness in my knee since I started wearing the brace. If I find that my knee hurts for whatever reason I put on the brace and the pain is gone almost instantly. The day I got the brace my wife and I went for a 2 mile walk. It was so nice to be able to walk with my lovely wife in the open air and not have pain for several days afterward. The DonJoy brace has been such a blessing in my life. At first the pressure on inside of my knee was annoying but the pain relief far outweighed the annoyance. The inner sleeve is a great option, I used it all the time at first but I don’t need to use it now. This is an awesome product thank you so much for your help. - Bill
jamar
tore my acl and put a crack in my tibia around april/march, had reconstructive surgery that july. After sitting out a whole six to seven months I "graduated" from therapy and recieved a defiance brace thanks to insurance;) now im still able to snowboard and even skate with a puck without worrying. long story short, get this brace to keep your knee stable. - jamar
Sid
I had MCL/ACL knee surgery back in 2004. I had this brace made for me and I used for the first 6 months after coming out of physical therapy. It allowed me to get straight back onto my snowboard and back into tennis without even thinking too hard about it. As my leg strengthened I stopped using it, and it went into storage for 8 years.
Now my tennis is up many levels and I've started running very hard on-court, even skidding on concrete to change directions. Several times I've felt my knee come close to popping out again, and so I put my 8 year old knee brace back into action. It worked flawlessly as I felt my knee start to give way on a change of direction, and the brace took the entire force of my change of movement - I just kept on charging :-). You really can use this knee brace to the best of your abilities. - Sid
Frank
I tore my meniscus last year during training and my doctor said that the best thing to wear was the Donjoy Defiance III. I was excited because I see a lot of colleges and pro teams wearing them and they are suppose to be the best. When I got it it was the best thing I ever got. I wouldnt have traded it for anything else and i can be sure to say that it has faved my ass numerous times. Overall a great investment and I would recommend this product to any high-contact athlete who is look for protection - Frank
TippyToes
I really am starting to love my DonJoy Defiance Braces. I've had them for about 1 month now. I can walk a lot better than I have. Most times I can wear them for up to 5 hours then I really have to start to take them off. Sometimes I can wear them a little longer, but not by much though. They get aggravated and a little sore. I have to wear them on both knees. I have Osteoarthritis in both knees and need surgery as well in both. I was told that there's a good chance that I'll be wearing them for the rest of my life. UGH!! Oh well, anything to help me to get around. Thank you again DonJoy for giving me my knees back some. I agree with you all that it would be nice if there was a way to get them off/on without taking shoes and pants off as well. It's kinda embarrassing having to go into a small stall at work and do this every time I work there. The one Job I can MOST of the time wear them, but the other I have to take them off (work 8 hrs.) part way through working. - TippyToes
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From annel at 4/9/10 9:12 PM
what type of brace is best for a softball player who has had ACL reconstruction?
If you are interested in a custom brace the DonJoy Defiance is the top of the line option. A custom knee brace is going to give you the best fit and be the most comfortable.
If you are interested in an off the shelf ACL Knee Brace that provide similar protection and close to the same precise fit you should consider one of DonJoy's newest knee braces which is the DonJoy FullForce Knee Brace. Which you can view here: http://www.betterbraces.com/donjoy-full-force-ligament-knee-brace-28
From robert lipton at 5/15/10 8:04 AM
How many measurements are taken to make don joy custom defiance kneebrace and what if it doesn't fit and how much does it cost.
The Defiance is measured by a DonJoy Sales Representative. Once your order the brace we contact the Sales Rep to notify them of the purchase and they contact you to get an appointment scheduled to take the measurements. Follow the link below for more product information
No you do not need a prescription to order the DonJoy Defiance Knee Brace. You can place the order online and once it has been ordered a DonJoy Sales Representative in your area will contact you to schedule an appointment to be measured for the brace.
Is a custom fit brace good for a 16 year old boy that is still growing?
Hello Scott,
Actually, the DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace is going to be ideal for a growing patient. First of all, you'll get a size change remake within 4 months, free of charge. Secondly when the patient does grow beyond the brace measurements, a remake will cost significantly less than ordering another off the shelf brace.
From gina at 8/29/10 7:46 AM
In order to bill the insurance company does the dr. need to write a prescription and order the brace or can your company bill insurance companies?
Hello Gina,
The DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace does not require a prescription.
I do apologize, at this time we do not bill insurance carriers.
From noe at 9/18/10 11:01 AM
how do u measure the brace
Hello,
When you order a DonJoy Defiance III knee brace, you get the opportunity to be custom fitted by one of the DonJoy bracing experts. Upon placing your order, we will contact you to make an appointment to take your measurements. The best part is the DonJoy bracing expert will come to you! Whether it’s your home or office, you can pick the time and location that is convenient for you. Your brace will be delivered approximately one week from the date your measurements are taken.
From Zach at 9/18/10 1:44 PM
I am a Wide Receiver and Outfielder who has had 2 acl reconstructions on my right knee, I was curious as to what brace you think would be best for me? I am looking for a light weight brace that will give me maximum stability and protection of my acl, while not sacrificing any speed. I guess I have narrowed it down to either the Full Force or the Custom Defiance (unless you recommend something else), but I'm curious as to how much the Defiance weighs. Also another concern is I am 7 months post op, so I am just now starting to lift heavy in my legs again, because of this I'm concerned about outgrowing the brace. Would gains from weight lifting be enough to cause a need for a change in size in the braces that are not custom fitted, based on the intervals of measurement and sizing? With all this being said please let me know what you recommend. Lastly, I was wondering if there is any location near Charlotte, NC that I could actually go and try these on and see for myself. Please let me know! Thanks,
-Zach
Hello Zach,
The Defiance weighs approx 20 ounces, while the Full Force weighs 22 ounces.
The Defiance can be remade to new measurements within 4 months of the brace's manufacture date, after that it can be remade at a lower price.
At this time we are a retail website only, with no physical retail location.
From nolan at 10/29/10 12:28 PM
my son is a 12yr old boy with a torn acl Will he be able to play basketball with the defiance III ? We have ordered one and he should get it today 10/29/10.
Hello Nolan,
The DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace is ideal for use in sport, including basketball.
From Frank at 12/14/10 8:28 PM
I have the townsend full shell knee brace. The problem is that the brace slides down when ever i run with it in football and its to heavy. Would DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace be better instead of the Townsend Full shell knee brace?
The DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace will fit better than any off the shelf brace due to the fact that the brace will be custom built for your leg contours.
From Joseph at 12/15/10 8:26 PM
How do you order the brace if you have a presciption for it?
Hello,
A prescription is not required to order this brace. Simply add to your cart and proceed through checkout. Be sure to include a valid contact number so a local rep in your area can give you a call to arrange the measurement of the knee.
From emm at 1/5/11 3:14 PM
im a volleyball player and my knee is really hearting when jump, walk (just my right knee) and its really bad when i m jogging. is this brace is good for me?
Hello Emm,
Do you have a diagnosis or recommendation from a physician? With this information we can help you select the brace brace for your needs.
From Frank at 2/20/11 12:35 PM
How can I order this brace and get a custom fitting by a donjoy distributer. Is this a good brace for football players to prevent a previous injury?
Add this item to your cart and proceed with checkout. Please make sure to provide a contact number and an email address so that a rep in your area can reach you to arrange measurement of the patient.
From John at 3/7/11 1:36 PM
Can I use the brace in the water? (Water Skiing, Surfing, etc.)
Yes you may use the Donjoy Defiance III in water just rinse it with fresh water after each use and air dry. You may use dry Teflon lubricant to prevent hinge wear and tear such as Triflow or White Lightening.
From Tammy at 4/18/11 2:05 PM
Does this brace need to be worn underneath clothing? Or can it be worn over jeans or any other type of pants?
It should be worn under clothing if possible. Obviously you will not be able to wear it under tight jeans, so wear it over the jeans in that case.
From Kyle at 6/2/11 10:37 PM
I have just had my 4th acl surgery. I am 16 years old and love sports and never see myself quiting. I have had 3 surgeries on my left knee including the one I had 6 weeks ago. My other knee braces don't help me because my left knee is very loose and my tibia slides to the inside very easily and a lot. Can your knee braces help to make that stop? The other surgery I had on my left knee made my knee do the same thing that I just explained and I did just as I was told in physical theapy and by my doctor who is ranked in the top 10 surgens in Ohio. If the donjoy knee brace can't help me then there is no other brace that can help me. I know this because I have tried on every brace imaginable.My sporting career is on the line. Can the donjoy knee brace stop the movement of my tibia?
The best Donjoy Knee Brace for your condition is the Custom Defiance ACL Brace with Fourcepoint Hinges. The frame design combined with the only hinge clinically proven to protect the ACL would be your best choice. In saying that, it is part of the equation. The surgery, therapy, your compliance in applying the brace properly and wearing it at all times is important. It sounds like you've had a long history of injuries so this is something you should discuss with your surgeon and family. However, to answer your question, this would be your best choice.
From andrew at 8/15/11 4:49 PM
How do you clean or wash the defiance III knee brace?
Keep soft goods attached and hand wash with mild detergent and air dry. Some patients will just wear it in the shower or dunk it in a soapy water tub and a fresh water tub after each use.
From Dorothy Stevens at 8/18/11 8:40 AM
I have a donjoy custom made brace from about 10 yrs ago. Its been great but the velcro and straps are worn. Can i get it refurbished and how would i do this?
Yes just call us at 800-553-6019. Your brace number will be helpful when ordering your replacement parts, if you don't know where it is on your brace, we will help you find it, or look up your records with your name.
From Laurie at 8/27/11 9:02 AM
Is the knee brace waterproof?
It's ok to take in the water. Just make sure you rinse the hinges and softgoods out with fresh water, let it dry, and re-lubricate with a teflon dry lubricant. Usually a bicycle chain lubricant will work.
From Paul lafontaine at 10/9/11 4:52 PM
Will the cust Defiance be able to be used for skiing and hockey stabilities? I need for both and have had 2 meniscus surgeries.
Yes the Custom Defiance can be used for skiing and hockey.
From Zinn at 10/17/11 1:53 AM
Hi.
I live in Dubai, UAE and I have had 2 ACL Surgeries so far. Also, I have recently torn and reconstructed my MCL. Some of the meniscus has also been removed.
What knee brace do you recommend for me? I am a grappler/wrestler.
I understand that for the Defiance III, there are measurements taken. Since I live abroad, who will take the measurements?
Thanks
Zinn
Hi Zinn,
I have asked out international department to contact you about ordering a Defiance III. Someone will be contacting you shortly.
Have a nice day.
From Chris at 11/2/11 2:02 PM
Hi,
I've used both the CTi and DJ Full Force knee brace. I like the way the DJ brace upper attachement grabs the top of the tibia and I find that it doesn't slide down as much as the CTI. However during kitesurfing I want a brace that is very stiff laterally and I find the stiffness of the CTI to be superior to the Full Force though. How would the lateral support of the Defiance compare to a CTI and a Full Force brace?
And would a short calf be less prone to migration as it would have both straps above the bulk of the calf muscle? How does the support and stiffness vary with the calf length option?
Hi Chris,
The Defiance is made of carbon fiber and it the stiffest brace we have. We have an additional order option to reinforce the brace with another layer of carbon fiber if you want. The reinforced frame is an option we market to our collegiant and professional football players as well as otehr high contact or extreme sports athletes. The Defiance also has our 4-points-of-leverage system, which helps with fit and suspention. But, most importantly it help prevents anterior tibial translation, which can injure the ACL. Depending on you calf shape and size, the short calf may be helpful to prevent migration. The shorter calf length will not comprmise the stiffness of the brace.
Another option for an off the shelf brace is our Armor. It is made of aircraft grade aluminum and is our strongest off the shelf brace.
If you have additional questions, please call, 1-800-553-6019
If you have additional questions, please call 1-800-553-6019.
Have a nice day.
From chip at 1/25/12 7:24 PM
Does it cost extra to be fitted for the defience
No, fitting and measuring for the brace is not an extra charge.
From Mauricio at 2/19/12 2:37 PM
i´m from mexico and i wanna i buy a defiance 3 knee brace,
how can i do it?
And i wanna know how to choose the ride sice from me?
Please contact Daonsa online at www.daonsa.com.mx
From jeff at 3/19/12 2:18 PM
Is the defiance III suitable for playing basketball. I had an acl injury and a meniscus tear.
Hi Jeff,
Yes the Defiance III is a great brace for basketball among many other sports and activities.
Have a nice day.
From dawn at 3/21/12 9:05 PM
i have been wearing knee braces for the last 13 years and have had 2 surgeries on my left knee. im currently having a problem of finding a braces the fully allows me to squat like i need to and not slide or pinch. im needing a brace that allows me to squat like a catcher on a baseball team does because my job and am having trouble finding one that works. would this brace be something that you recommend.
You should have full flexion in the brace. Please contact us at 888-405-3251 to discuss further.
From Bob at 3/25/12 2:16 PM
How do you wear soccer shin guards with one of these knee braces?
The brace comes in two differnt calf lengths. If you are concerned with shin guard clearance, I suggest ordering the "short calf" version.
From MacKenzie at 4/16/12 9:28 PM
After i hit the gym to build my leg muscles back up, will the brace still fit me or will i have to get a new one?
Hi MacKenzie,
All custom knee braces have a 4 month remake window. if your leg size changes within the first four months of receiving the brace it can be remade one time at no charge
Have a nice day.
From Blake at 5/9/12 12:27 PM
Hi I ordered this brace last night and they didn't call me to set up an appointment yet. How long does the whole process from ordering, fitting, an actually getting the product take?
You should hear from the Sales Representative within the next 24-48 hours.
From Natasha at 6/10/12 5:45 AM
Does insurance help pay for the brace or is this something you pay for yourself? If not are there payment plans?. I tore my acl mcl and meniscus 11 months ago and have preseason in 2 months so I need a really good brace.
Hi
Questions pertaining to insurance coverage can only be answered by your personal insurance company.
Have a nice day.
From manu at 8/3/12 11:28 AM
is the DonJoy Defiance III Custom Knee Brace can use for knock knees. is possible cure knock knees.....
The Defiance is our custom made brace. It is made to the size and contour of your legs, it is a protective brace, it is not intended as a corrective device.
From Doug at 9/11/12 2:56 AM
Would it be possible to order a Donjoy Defiance online without a CCM fitting ?
The custom Braces must be measured by a rep or someone with the knowledge of what numbers we need. I therapist can do a scan and send the AOP file to us.
From Francis at 11/11/12 6:29 AM
I tore my meniscus during pre season football and there was a server risk of my ACL being torn. Fortunately, it wasn't and I had a bucket handle torn meniscus. Would this brace help while playing football for protecting the knee?
Hello, Francis -
The DonJoy Defiance III is a custom brace, therefore a rep or healthcare professional (doctor, physical therapist) would have to fit you for the item. As far as the functionof this brace, yes, it is recommended for prophylactic knee ligament support, the ACL in particular. If you prefer to use a standard (non-custom) knee brace that protects and supports the knee ligaments, we recommend either of the following: the Legend, 4titude, Armor, or Full Force.
Thanks and have a great day!
From May at 11/16/12 10:41 AM
Is there a large print diagram of the directions on how to put on the knee brace, as the one in the box is too small for people like myself with vision difficulties. I prefer print over the video
Hello, May -
Yes we do have something in print fo ryou. I will email it to you at the email you provided (cokermay@hotmail.com) so you can either view it on your computer screen or print it out.
Thank you and have a great day!
From Karen Shipman at 11/21/12 12:08 PM
A custom knee brace is a big financial investment, can you tell me how many years the brace is expected to last?
Hello, Karen -
Our custom Defiance III braces are built to have an indefinite shelf life. We have a life-long guarantee on the hinge and frame and a 6 month guarantee on the soft goods (straps, pads). It's an extremely durable brace - many professional athletes use them in collision sports such as football.
If you have further questions, you can contact our product specialists at 888-4058-3251.
Thank you and have a great day!
From Mike at 11/25/12 3:43 PM
My son is a catcher in college and had to have a revision so he needs a brace that want slow him down and he can catch. Do you have a brace that he can wear under his shin guards and be able to move? He needs something that he can run in and keep his speed on bases and will give him great protection.
Hello, Mike -
We recommend that your son speak to his athletic trainer or doctor, or whoever fitted him for the brace. Because we do not know the diagnosis of his knee, we do not know what type of support he needs as we have many braces to choose from that provide different types of support for diagnoses.
If you would like to further discuss or have additional questions, we encourage you to contact our product specialists at 888-405-3251.
Thank you and have a great day!
From Jake Smith at 1/26/13 9:15 PM
Will the straps still grab as tight after being in and out of the lake all summer long?
Hello, Jake -
The straps should not be affected as the grip is made of hook velcro. However, if a brace is worn in water (pool, lake, ocean, etc), we recommend that after use, it be rinsed under tap water to remove any debris, salt, chlorine so as not to compromise the integrity of the straps and brace.
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
From Undine at 2/15/13 10:31 PM
How long does it take to get a brace re sized?
Hello,
Normally the turn around time is 24-48 hours. Once you work with your sales rep or health care provider in getting the appropriate measurements, it will be submitted and made either the day of or the following day (depending on what time of day the request is made). It is then shipped out to you once it has been made.
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
From Sally at 2/18/13 7:40 AM
I would appreciate a printed copy of how to put the knee brace on as the
video instructions are hard for me to follow. Thank you
Hello, Sally -
You were emailed a printed copy of instructions on how to put the brace on.
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
From thomas at 2/18/13 10:36 AM
Im a 16 year old male that has been told by the doctor that I am still growing so i want to know how much a remake will cost.
Hello, Thomas -
A remake costs $300 after 4 months of original puchase.
Thanks and have a wonderful day!
From RFR at 3/19/13 3:22 PM
I am looking for the best knee brace you have that can be used for skiing and other sports. I have had two ACL reconstructive surgeries on my right knee in '91 and '06. Can you provide both a custom model and off the shelf model.
Thanks
Yes, The Defiance or Defiance III with FourcePoint hinge, for off the shelf, the Armor with FourcePoint hinge and a shaort calf.
From Fernando at 3/28/13 5:28 PM
I have my ACL totally torn and my MCL partially torn and no plans to have them operated for the next year. I’ve been doing physiotherapy regularly and I need a brace that support my landings (I’m a skydiver and I need to run some steeps in my landings). Which brace is more recommended for my case? Thank you very much.
Hello, Fernando -
The DonJoy Defiance Custom Brace with Fourcepoint hinge and ACL strapping sequence would be highly recommended for your activity and injury.
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
From Gary at 5/13/13 7:25 PM
Please, I need some help. I torn my ACL months ago and I am wondering if this knee brace will help me to stalize my knee and don't keep making it worse. I will get a surgery, but not sure when yet. I am still running a bit but sometimes if I am on a slippery surface I have stability problems because of my torn ACL or if the terrain where I am running is not plane. Thanks
Hello, Gary -
The Defiance III is an excellent choice to go with. I'm not sure what your question is, though.
If you need further assistance or would like to ask any specific questions, please feel free to contact our product specialists at 888-405-3251.
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
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